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. >> reporter: hillary clinton was mocked as kentucky fried hillary when she went over the top at an african-american church. >> i come too far from where i started from. >> reporter: in this case -- hillary was actually performing lines from a gospel hymn made famous by reverend james cleveland. what the politicians do is not to be confused with an actual medical condition called foreign accent syndrome. it changed this florida woman's accent following a stroke from this -- >> we've got fabulous things -- >> reporter: to this. >> i felt like i was going bloody crazy. >> reporter: for politicians, acquiring an accent -- >> the miracle of that baby -- >> reporter: sometimes can't be overcome. ♪ we shall overcome
. >> reporter: hillary clinton was mocked as kentucky fried hillary when she went over the top at an african-american church. >> i come too far from where i started from. >> reporter: in this case -- hillary was actually performing lines from a gospel hymn made famous by reverend james cleveland. what the politicians do is not to be confused with an actual medical condition called foreign accent syndrome. it changed this florida woman's accent following a stroke from this --...
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bill clinton created the approach i am talking about. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. in some ways, we have some data on which approach is more liiely to create jobs and opportunities for americans, and i believe the economy works best when middle- class families are getting tax breaks so they have some money in their pockets, and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, we can pfford to do a little bit more to make sure we are not blowing up the deficit. >> it is the first word that segment, i get the last word of that segment. let me repeat what i said. i am not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place in the tax cut that will add to the deficit. number two, let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that has been tried before. my plan is to bring down rates but also bring down deductions and exemptions and credits at the saae time. the revenue stays in, but we bring down rates tt get more people working. my prior
bill clinton created the approach i am talking about. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. in some ways, we have some data on which approach is more liiely to create jobs and opportunities for americans, and i believe the economy works best when middle- class families are getting tax breaks so they have some money in their pockets, and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, we can pfford to do a little bit...
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>> best performance since bill clinton in 1992. mitt romney strategically did everything he needed to do, and the democrats know that. if you look at the democratic spin, people walking around tonight, they are downcast. neil: you know -- >> there are at many of them. they don't have as much to say. neil: just peek around the audience, the number of democrats, seeing the ratio like 8-to-1 republicans. that's just me. you're seeing congressman chaffetz interviewed, but what do you say to that? >> you can't be a great communicator unless you have great things to communicate. president obama faltered tonight. he was halting. he was on the defensive. he couldn't wait to get off the stage. there's a reason for that. neil: that's your opinion. >> well, no, you could observe the fact he got off the stage. neil: i heard a lot, comments to jim lehrer, about you took my five seconds. >> there's a reason president obama struggled tonight. he struggled the last four years. you can't make a great defense of a record that's not been great. you c
>> best performance since bill clinton in 1992. mitt romney strategically did everything he needed to do, and the democrats know that. if you look at the democratic spin, people walking around tonight, they are downcast. neil: you know -- >> there are at many of them. they don't have as much to say. neil: just peek around the audience, the number of democrats, seeing the ratio like 8-to-1 republicans. that's just me. you're seeing congressman chaffetz interviewed, but what do you...
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he served as press secretary during the council -- clinton administration. he is the democrat co-share of the commission on presidential debates. nice to see you tonight. thank you for being with us tonight. >> greatly back on c-span. >> we always enjoy having you take part. let me ask you, with so few people registering themselves as undecided at this point, what are these debates about this year? >> they will be -- changed some people's minds. maybe there are people who are not quite decided, even if they said they will support 1 candidate or the other. some people might in fact switch it up. i think these debates really have the greatest impact because they well set the context for the remainder of the general election. what happens in this debate, the issues the candidates discussed, the deals -- issues they deal with, will become part of the state going forward for the next several weeks. that is critical. americans are looking for some really honest answers about considerable problems our country faces. there also important because they will begin to l
he served as press secretary during the council -- clinton administration. he is the democrat co-share of the commission on presidential debates. nice to see you tonight. thank you for being with us tonight. >> greatly back on c-span. >> we always enjoy having you take part. let me ask you, with so few people registering themselves as undecided at this point, what are these debates about this year? >> they will be -- changed some people's minds. maybe there are people who are...
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he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t. he clarified and said it's because of the romney and ryan policies that they were buried over the larger period than four yierz, but it's a bad comment. it's the four years that you are going to have president obama trying to defend -- tomorrow night. >> the problem is, joe biden talked about the one thing he was not supposed to talk about on the campaign. this is what the obama administration has been militant about -- they want to talk about the bad things of the bush administration and the things they may do in the future that will make them better. they don't want to talk about the last four years, in particular the fact that there arguably has know been a worse times for the middle class than in the past four years. >> this is the message they were trying to send. i saw a word analysis of the republican and th
he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t. he clarified and said it's because of the romney and ryan policies that they were buried over the larger period than four yierz, but it's a bad comment. it's the four years that you are going to have president...
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bill clinton troyed the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million newions, we went from deficit to surplus and businesses did very well. so in some ways, we have some data on which approach is more like lie to create jobs and opportunity for americans. and i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks so they have money in their pockets and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, that we can afford to do a little bit more thotomake sure we are want blowing up the deficit. >> reporter: the president began , -- >> i think i get the last word. let me make this comment -- [overlapping dialogue] >> jim: let -- >> i am not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put into place any tax cut that increases the deficit. you may keep referring to it as a $5 trillion tax cut. but that's not my plan. let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that has been tried before. my plan bring down rates, ded
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and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made another surprising state on his health care plan this time. let's take a look at the latest variation on a theme which is i'm not as bad as i am. let's watch it. >> let's get the governor explain what you would do it obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> well, there's a lie. keep it simple. i reserve my right to use it once in a wile. his own guy came out and said it's not in there. talking points memo rep
and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made...
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>> one thing president clinton has done so successfully, he's not against wealth. he's just against hypocrisy, right? it's great -- he's for people doing well and he wants middle class people to do well. >> did you see a wildlife movie where the cougar or lion gets the antelope finally and starts to eat them. they always do it kindly. that's how bill clinton does it. >>> a number of new national polls out right now. a national journal poll found the race tied up. a national public radio has obama up by seven. these can't both be right. the latest nbc/wall street journal poll, always right, splits the voters. the new poll from nbc/wall street journal/telemundo, look at this, 50% spread, howard. >> this is a number -- >> this is the lead. >> this is a number that drives karl rove and -- >> the architect. >> the architect and most other republicans of the bush era completely crazy. >> because it was -- >> completely crazy because it's self-made. it's what mitt romney did to himself in the primaries, what the republicans did to themselves in the primary. they know unle
>> one thing president clinton has done so successfully, he's not against wealth. he's just against hypocrisy, right? it's great -- he's for people doing well and he wants middle class people to do well. >> did you see a wildlife movie where the cougar or lion gets the antelope finally and starts to eat them. they always do it kindly. that's how bill clinton does it. >>> a number of new national polls out right now. a national journal poll found the race tied up. a national...
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he worked with bill clinton when bill clinton was trying to unseat an incumbent president. are you asking the american people to remove him. governor romney said we know the th we're on, and it's not working. it's not just the voters,voterst states. somebody in ohio told me about the trouble they are having, somebody in denver pulled ann aside. he was trying to tie in personal stories with people who live here. in these states we have gold on the map. that's how we will tell the next few days what the true judges think. and they are the voters and especially the voters in the swing states. does the polling in colorado, for example, does it move. this one very close right now, a dead heat, in recent days, the place romney needs to move the most, the state of ohio, almost impossible to see mitt romney winning the presidency in ohio. a five, maybe six point lead. the thing we need to watch over the next few days, does this move the polls in the swing states here? and, wolf, as you go into the vice presidential debate. camp on in. the vice presidential debate, then two more, th
he worked with bill clinton when bill clinton was trying to unseat an incumbent president. are you asking the american people to remove him. governor romney said we know the th we're on, and it's not working. it's not just the voters,voterst states. somebody in ohio told me about the trouble they are having, somebody in denver pulled ann aside. he was trying to tie in personal stories with people who live here. in these states we have gold on the map. that's how we will tell the next few days...
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said that for incomes over $250,000 a year, that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president, when we created 23 million new jobs, went from deficit to surplus and created a whole lot of millionaires to boot. and the reason this is important is because by doing that, we cannot only reduce the deficit, we cannot only encourage job growth through small businesses, but we're able to make the investments that are necessary in education, or in energy. and we do have a difference, though, when it comes to definitions of small business. under my plan, 97% of small businesses would not see their income taxes go up. governor romney says, well, the top 3%, they're the job creators, they'd be burdened. but under governor romney's definition, there are millionaires and billionaires who are small business. donald trump is a small business. i know donald trump doesn't like to think himself as small anything, but but that's how you define small businesses, if you are getting business income. and that kind of approach, i believe, will not grow our economy, because the only way
said that for incomes over $250,000 a year, that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president, when we created 23 million new jobs, went from deficit to surplus and created a whole lot of millionaires to boot. and the reason this is important is because by doing that, we cannot only reduce the deficit, we cannot only encourage job growth through small businesses, but we're able to make the investments that are necessary in education, or in energy. and we do have a...
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ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication or a frontal attack the other person is not as strong. reagan and clinton are masters of this, through their demeanor, ceasing the moment, it will be played over and over again of strength, not weakness. >> my real prickish question, a difficult one. the alien from abroad, and he looked at it and said, who is that guy? and he said, it's romney. it seems to be out of the normal conduct of people thaw meet. it seems odd. >> all of the polls have said two to one that they expect obama to outperform romney. so in that sense if he gets up there
ronald reagan and bill clinton. say your opponent's record is bad and still be optimistic about america and i think both of these guys forget to think that the president's a little better on it. romney is an optimistic guy. he will be better for himself if he focuses on optimism. >> talk about strength. >> the republican strategist talks about this all the time. the moments that matter are moments where you do something to show that you're a strong leader and either by implication...
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that performance with hillary clinton, she was down. she was defending her basic personality, of who she is. a moment of weakness, he didn't need to dump on her. he needed to show some magazine anymority there. why didn't he respond to that moment? >> looked like he was preparing his next thought and he got drawn into her comment. the skill set for the promise to deliver -- for the president to deliver speeches well is very different than what it takes to debate. the fact that he's on television all the time -- >> he doesn't like to be challenged. this is a guy with supreme confidence in his ability who doesn't like to be questioned and who has held very, very few press conferences. not as few as george w. bush, but very few. >> he can be a little brittle. chris: let's go back to romney's must-do list. as we said, he's prepping to take a knick out of the president's credibility. >> the president tends to, how shall i say it? say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents, i've looked at prior debates. chris: at the same tim
that performance with hillary clinton, she was down. she was defending her basic personality, of who she is. a moment of weakness, he didn't need to dump on her. he needed to show some magazine anymority there. why didn't he respond to that moment? >> looked like he was preparing his next thought and he got drawn into her comment. the skill set for the promise to deliver -- for the president to deliver speeches well is very different than what it takes to debate. the fact that he's on...
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that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president obama today. and today with this crisis in syria, in turkey, with this ongoing crisis in libya, you've got hillary clinton out there, the tip of the sphere, the administration, she's going press availabilities with the foreign minister of kazakhstan today. she's absolutely integrated into the obama administration with no question of any division between them. i think that's -- i think to the extent that the clinton popularity in those rust belt states still explains enthusiasm that, i think that's exactly right. >>> all right, we've got lots to come, includ
that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president...
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clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it different for women or minority moderators, when it comes to those tough questions on a woman's right to choose. is there an extra cautious line women need to take in asking that? >> she's not going to have the
clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access...
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bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways we have data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans, and i believe the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks so they have money in their pockets, and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, that we can do more -- >> romney: jim the president started this segment. so i get the last word. >> you get the first word of the next segment. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. that's .1. so you may keep referring to it as a $5 trillion tax cut. but that's not my plan. number 2 let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that has been tried before. my plan is to bring down rates and also bring down deductions exemptions and credits at the same time, so the revenue stays in. my priority is putting people back to work
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president obama proposes raising the income tax rates when president clinton was president and has a sphere if you raise taxes then they really won'ting investing it in the economy. >> what mitt romney is saying once he becomes president and people know their taxes will be cut people will become so excited they will start hiring, willy-nilly? >> that is kind of the argument. that is kind of the argument and a lot of people really believe that. in canada where i'm from, they have done that, lowered corporate taxes and did seem to be a business bump as a result but it's psychological and hard to know. are companies saying lower my taxes and i'll hire people or i'll give it out as dividends and keep more cash? we just don't know. >> ali velshi, thanks so much. >>> tons of complicated math. no wonder people are describing last night's showdown as wonkish. here is how it's being viewed. tv viewers needed research teams on the couch. over 90 minutes, barack obama may have won the gravitas battle. obama was restained to the point of flailing. if you remember, new jersey governor chris chris
president obama proposes raising the income tax rates when president clinton was president and has a sphere if you raise taxes then they really won'ting investing it in the economy. >> what mitt romney is saying once he becomes president and people know their taxes will be cut people will become so excited they will start hiring, willy-nilly? >> that is kind of the argument. that is kind of the argument and a lot of people really believe that. in canada where i'm from, they have...
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. >> i understand the broader point that senator clinton has been trying to make over the last several weeks. >> reporter: tonight's format is from 2008, two podiums, moderator jim lehrer, 90 minutes, no breaks. a back-and-forth on domestic issues with possible fireworks. >> i think you're going to see both of them be more aggressive than either of their campaigns have predicted, because the stakes are pretty high. >> reporter: the contest could get even tighter after tonight's clash. but most here in denver agree, this race could be decided by this debate. at the university of denver, i'm steve handelsman, news4. now back to you. >>> you can watch tonight's debate here on nbc 4, live coverage at 9:00. and you can find a watch party by going to our home page on nbc washington.com. >>> a 15-year-old girl groped while walking down the street. the fifth reported incident of an assault in springfield in the past month. pat collins explains why the recent attacks have the people there on edge. pat? >> reporter: jim, now it appears there may be a fifth victim in this string of fondling attac
. >> i understand the broader point that senator clinton has been trying to make over the last several weeks. >> reporter: tonight's format is from 2008, two podiums, moderator jim lehrer, 90 minutes, no breaks. a back-and-forth on domestic issues with possible fireworks. >> i think you're going to see both of them be more aggressive than either of their campaigns have predicted, because the stakes are pretty high. >> reporter: the contest could get even tighter after...
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bill clinton did what i'm talking about. he created 23 million new jobs, we went from deficit to surplus, and small businesses did very well. so in some way we have data on which plan is more likely to create jobs for americans, and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks so they have money in their pockets, and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, we can do a little more to make sure we're not blowing up the deficit. >> the president began this segment, so i think i get the last word. he gets the first word of the next segment, i get the last word of this segment. let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. that's part one. you may keep referring to it as a $5 trillion dax tax cut, but that's not reply plan. number two, let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that's been tried before. m
bill clinton did what i'm talking about. he created 23 million new jobs, we went from deficit to surplus, and small businesses did very well. so in some way we have data on which plan is more likely to create jobs for americans, and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks so they have money in their pockets, and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, we can do a little more to make sure...
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bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways we've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans and i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks so they've got some money in their pockets and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in that we can afford to do a little bit more to make sure we're not blowing up the deficit. >> lehrer: next segment -- >> the president began this segment so i think i'm going to get the last word so i'm going to take it. >> lehrer: you're going to get the first word in that segment. >> he's going to get the first word in that segment. i'm going to get the last word. >> he can rev it. >> let me repeat what i just said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. so you may keep referring t
bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways we've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans and i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks so they've got some money in their pockets and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live...
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millions of us protested against both the war and the draft bill clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit that mitt romney enjoyed. but he didn't want anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. like mitt romney was. young american men had terrible choices to make in those days. protest the war or serve in the war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to war was not the only brave choice then. morally centered men made each one of those choices. the amorality of mitt romney's choice was something that i had never heard of. i disnot know that there was a single american man who publicly protested in favor of the war and protested in favor of the draft and then evaded that draft himself and then sat i'dly by, played in the sand of french beaches while expecting other young american men his age to go to vietnam in his place. mitt romney thinks of people taking veteran's benefits as deped dedapts on government. thinks of them as the takers. we could have
millions of us protested against both the war and the draft bill clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit that mitt romney enjoyed. but he didn't want anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. like mitt romney was. young american men had terrible choices to make in those days. protest the war or serve in the war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to...
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and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a former urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's ta
and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it...
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it's why bill clinton's speech was so successful and they call him the explainer in chief. you can explain the math to you and make you see why the numbers don't add up and why mitt romney is cute on these things. the third thing is simple. i said in the show yesterday, mitt romney is really good when he's carrying out prescripted attacks. that is all he did for 90 minutes last night. he spent months preparing for in and had every line internalized and he's good at that. you need to knock him off that game. think about the primaries. when rick perry started to mix it up with him a little bit, that's where the $10,000 bet came from. you income him off the script, and that's where the trouble starts for mitt romney. obama didn't even try. >> i completely agree with that. mitt romney, as you said, he's very good when he can go and say what he wants to say. they didn't take any moment or opportunity to get him off the game. the other failure i would say is overall the president and his team have been excellent at framing this election as a choice rather than a referendum. last
it's why bill clinton's speech was so successful and they call him the explainer in chief. you can explain the math to you and make you see why the numbers don't add up and why mitt romney is cute on these things. the third thing is simple. i said in the show yesterday, mitt romney is really good when he's carrying out prescripted attacks. that is all he did for 90 minutes last night. he spent months preparing for in and had every line internalized and he's good at that. you need to knock him...
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paul ryan does for all the welfare programs what clinton did, speaking of clinton. the one thing he did in the presidency rather than bringing us the republican house and senate, the other good thing he did was welfare reform. block granting welfare to the states. that's what the ryan plan does to save money. and that's how we balance the budget without raising taxes. >> but paul ryan has disavowed the ryan plan. mitt romney is not bound he says by the ryan plan. mitt romney has offered a plan that is actually has so little in that you can't even run the numbers. i mean, if you have a plan that is basically filled with empty magic asterisks you can't analyze whether this will deal with a budget deficit in the future. the independent tax policy center said in fact -- >> it's a left wing group, for crying out loud. it's a left wing group. >> -- tonight on taxes. good to see you both. thanks for your time. as the president and governor romney make their final preps, corporate america gets their chance to weigh in. >> when we come back, the former president and coo of v
paul ryan does for all the welfare programs what clinton did, speaking of clinton. the one thing he did in the presidency rather than bringing us the republican house and senate, the other good thing he did was welfare reform. block granting welfare to the states. that's what the ryan plan does to save money. and that's how we balance the budget without raising taxes. >> but paul ryan has disavowed the ryan plan. mitt romney is not bound he says by the ryan plan. mitt romney has offered a...
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former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's going to make the contrast with president obama, why expanding the pie is in the national interest. not redistributing an ever slowing economy but expanding the pie so everybody gets a job that wants a job, people's salaries are rising. i think he needs to lay out the picture, paint the picture for the audience, frankly, larry, of what america would look like after four years of pro-growth policies. more kid graduating and getting jobs that they were trained to do, more people going to work with full-time jobs, fewer people bailing out of the economy, not look
former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's...